Thank you, Activison.

**nytelyte** · Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 131 Location: Nashville, TN

Thank you, Activision, or whoever else the hell is responsible (please don't correct me, I'm not in the mood) for making this horrible, flaky, piece of garbage engine that has so many bugs I can't even enjoy my game.

I can crack 1.4 million points on rockit, so I think I know how to scratch, fade, and tap. So explain to me why I break combo in random spots all over the beginning of Beats and Pieces where it's just simple "up down up down *free scratch* down up down up"?!? Explain to me why there's an "up down up down up down up down up down up down up down" and as I'm doing a normal up and down motion that works on all other 92 tracks of your horribly built game, it BREAKS MY COMBO AND GIVES ME ZERO CREDIT FOR THE REST OF THE SCRATCH SECTION?!

This is the flakiest engine I've *EVER* seen for *ANY* music game. I'd rather play this game on the Guitar Praise engine. I wanted to try and practice and get better at Beats and Pieces today, but all I did was get really pissed off for breaking combo on really really simple things. So a simple plain up arrow scratch, a single up arrow all by itself, I scratch upward as I'm supposed to, and I tap the green button. Explain to me why my combo breaks? Don't tell me that I'm not doing it right or that I must be doing something wrong... I am pretty darn positive I know what I'm doing. It's pretty simple what's supposed to happen. I am supposed to move the turntable in such a manner that the buttons rotate on the platter AWAY from me, and I tap the corresponding button (green, in this case) while "scratching" when the green up arrow crosses the three targets at the bottom of the highway. I have done this many other times with success. Why, Activision (or whoever else is responsible), does it break my combo on the SAME up arrow every single time? Is it because you don't know what the hell you're doing?

I shouldn't have to adjust my playstyle to hit certain things early, late, hold arrows longer or tap them faster on certain sections of certain songs just because your game engine is so horribly programmed. A green up arrow should have the exact same timing restrictions no matter what song or what difficulty it is found on.

Also, thank you for making a controller that has such horribly designed buttons. I love having a long stream of 16th taps on the same button, tapping the button with the CORRECT timing (yes, I am 100% sure I am doing this right, I am an old IIDX player with plenty of AAA's on another and am also a musician and have an EXCELLENT understanding of rhythm, music, and the math behind it), yet your controller's buttons are so horribly made, that the little rubber plunger under your cheap plastic buttons does not pop back up fast enough to be depressed again, so the controller tells the game that I held the button down instead of pressing it again. I also appreciate that your turntable is so awesomely made that sometimes when I spin the platter in a clockwise manner (I play buttons-right) at a very high velocity, much higher than necessary to trigger the "720 rewind", that you give me some lame-ass excuse for a rewind. This is absolutely amazing, exactly what I wanted out of a game.

... christ. Fix your game. The engine blows and the controller is a piece of crap. This makes me so sad, because I would really enjoy my game if it worked properly. Instead I nearly threw my overpriced piece of garbage (also known as my turntable controller) out the window. Man, if it were wired, I couldn't throw it out the window. ... maybe I should get one of those.

**Grimnir** · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:30 am Post subject:

GAH seriously +1...

+100000!!!

it's like FSG opened up gh---1--- and rb1 and didn't think to look any further <_< I know it's their first game in their release... it doesn't mean it's the first rhythm game and they have to re-discover how to make something fuckin work >_<

And ya, it isn't some "i can't play this (but it's prolly me) and I'm gonna cus about it instead of working harder" You can't say someone with #1 global scores on a song is whining because he isn't good enough <_< The problem is that he IS good enough, to see that the problems are with the GAME!

I love dj hero, it's a great game... it's engine is SHIT though. And being activision.. I doubt we'll see a patch, just 4 more releases next year <_<
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**nytelyte** · Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 131 Location: Nashville, TN

... great music, great concept, great graphics...

and they ruin it with a flaky engine and garbage controller.

I've got a good idea as to how large companies that crank these games out work... They care 100% about the casual player who's gonna buy it and play on medium, and 0% about the hardcore players. Sure, there are more casual players out there, but the hardcore players get more casual players, and buy more than just the first version of the game, and they get all of the DLC and more controllers when the ones they have start to wear down.

It's obvious they don't care about hardcore players just by looking at hyperdeck mode. Grah. Anyone who isn't ridiculously good at a music game, I will highly suggest they get DJ Hero. Anyone who *IS* ridiculously good at music games, I'm gonna have to tell them to hold off and wait for a better version... ... if we ever get one.

**Grimnir** · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:55 am Post subject:

afaik it's already slated for a dj2 in 2010 4th quarter... which if they make the improvement measure between gh1 and gh2 <_< will be WELL worth the wait...

I just hope they at least put in dlc forward compatibility <_< Because fuck that would suck to lose another game's dlc to do versioning <_<
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**nardi11011** · Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 94 Location: Netherlands

Hmm. Any of you here are able to connect your controller to your PC somehow?
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shadow6463 wrote:

Zephyr618 wrote:

I've been practiving this over and over again and even at 50% speed I can't hit any notes... WTF?!??!?

Make sure you're hitting the drum controller

**de1337ed** · Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 1066 Location: JMU, VA

The number of times I've just assumed it was me missing is pretty astronomical. I'm sure a large number of these times are really my fault, but I've 5'd all but 4 songs, two of which are Beats and Pieces and Monkey Wrench/Sabotage. Whenever I think about the Beastie Boys I get frustrated...
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**Kane40** · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 762 Location: Belgium

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**higgatron** · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 82 Location: NJ

also - how are we getting different note totals on the same difficulty on the same game? check the leaderboards. people on the same difficulty with FCs on the same song have a range of notes. the xx/? with the ? being the problem

my case - David Axelrod / Eric B & Rakim. i play on hard. my game tells me there are 389 notes. kane40 takes a pic. his has 407. i really really don't understand how the same game can have different charts

and fuck sabotage / monkey wrench. i've noticed the timing windows on the guitar/dj songs are fucked

i really enjoy the game but completely different note charts on the same song on the same difficulty is outrageous. i don't even know how that happens
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**ricecake** · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject:

**Kane40** · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 762 Location: Belgium

Yeah, but this much ? (517 vs 486, 9 vs 8 rewinds)

Ok, that's only 3.1 notes per rewind, but still...

**higgatron** · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 82 Location: NJ

so note totals are arbitrary and can change based on rewinds?

kane40 vs. cyberwaste. same song

my FC total = the note total given by cyberwaste's screen. i hit 8 rewinds and he hit 4. kane hit 1 more rewind and has an extra 31 notes? so squeezing a rewind can have that kind of effect on the note total? if i'm understanding correctly from grimnir's post then kane's total should be 517/486, right? or does the total go up because of the game's design?

in my head, regardless of extra notes squeezable, CAN'T THE NOTE TOTAL JUST REFLECT HOW MANY NOTES ARE IN THE SONG!??! i guess playing through it with no rewinds is the only way to find out?
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