ready2rock: Vocals FSFC!!!

**WhYYZ** · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject:

GH:M FGFC on vox is almost getting the FSFC.

Which game is on the agenda next?
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**ready2rock** · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject:

Thanks everyone for the kind words.

On which game is next: I'm leaning towards going for Van Halen next, since that would be the last one on that vocals engine, and I really want to be done with that engine. I might try to do an FC breakdown of it along the way since I couldn't find one. However, I've heard a lot of different perspectives on the difficulty of it. Some put the game somewhere in the middle with respect to the other games (aka easier than 5, BH, and Metallica), and some say it's the hardest game in the series, so I'm not quite sure what to expect besides knowing that I'm the One, Semi-Charmed Life, and especially Ice Cream Man are considered difficult (along with one or two others I may be forgetting).

Any of you with those fancy FSFC banners want to give their take on it?
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**arvain** · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:25 pm Post subject:

**ready2rock** · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:18 am Post subject:

Bump for starting GH:VH and to have a post for my FC breakdown.

Question: Is it just me, or is the VH engine slightly more lenient than GH:M? Maybe it was just the song I was playing, but I felt like I was getting phrases that I wouldn't get in Metallica.

FC Breakdown for GH:VH Vocals:

Master Exploder - "Me and KG wrote this song 5 minutes ago."
Hang 'em High - Nothing tricky here.
Intruder/(Oh) Pretty Woman - 1 or 2 of the phrases at the end might prevent a sightread FC, but this one's pretty easy.
Best of You - Just 1 weird phrase about 2 and a half minutes in that deviates from the pattern. Besides that, THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST etc.
The End of Heartache - The only hard part about this one is that it's long.
Pain - My only sightread FC so far, but the phrases are short, and you need to pay attention to breathing in the chorus.
Runnin' with the Devil - Easy. The only slightly tricky phrase at all is "no love you call real" in verse 3. Besides that, this one should be a breeze.
Pretty Fly (For a White Guy) - Pretty easy because of the verses being all talkies, but don't count out this chorus. Pay attention to your breathing and take a look at the "Ricki Lake" phrase before you give this a try, then you should be fine.
Dope Nose - Take a look at the very last phrase of the song and you should be good to go.
Little Guitars - Pretty simple here, just have the patience to wait a full minute before you do anything.
White Wedding (Part 1) - Phrases in quick succession in the verse combined with short phrases in the chorus put this at about middle of the road difficulty.
Dance the Night Away - Definitely not even close to the hardest song in the game. There's only one or two phrases that might trip you up.
Loss of Control - Figure out the weird charting of the 1st verse and you're home free.
Hear About it Later - This one shouldn't be too bad, it only took me as long as it did because I wasn't familiar with the song
Come to Life - The hardest part is the harmonies after the solo (the phrases before that, by the way, are one of the only occasions where I've disagreed with their decision to chart talkies).
Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love - Has a couple of phrases in the verse that might trip you up, but pretty easy otherwise.
Jamie's Cryin' - Pretty straightforward, maybe a couple of notes in the song that might trip you up at first, put pretty easy to figure out.
The Takedown - The chorus changes slightly every time. Pay attention to those changes and you should be fine.
Sick, Sick, Sick - Figuring out where to breathe is the hardest part of this one.
Panama - This one isn't too bad. There are a couple of phrases in the verses where it's hard to figure out the pitch, but the length of the phrases plus the talkies in some of them make this one at about medium difficulty.
Unchained - The good thing about this one is that the tough phrases are near the beginning.
Stacy's Mom - *insert clever innuendo about the difficulty of this song*
And the Cradle Will Rock... - Chorus is easy, but there are a couple of pretty tricky phrases in the verses for figuring out the pitch.
Feel Your Love Tonight - See above, except add a really high Beatles-esque "woo" in the first chorus.
Atomic Punk - Figure out "My fearsome name is heard" and this one is easy.
Hot for Teacher - Chances are you've played this before in WT, and I don't think the chart has changed too much, but it's still pretty tricky.
Painkiller - They charted a different harmony than the RB2 version, and the phrases right before the 2nd solo are tough. The good news is that there's only about 3 pitches in the song.
Safe European Home - Verses are tough, and you'll be sick of hearing about Rudie by the end of it.
You Really Got Me - I don't know about anyone else, but I personally had a lot of trouble with some of the pitches in this one, despite knowing the song since GH2.
I'm the One - Bop ba da, shoo be do wah indeed.
Mean Street - A great example of one that is really difficult to figure out pitch in the verses.
Space Truckin' - The really high pitches and the 3rd verse in particular might give you trouble here.
Rock and Roll is Dead - The verse changes every time, and some of them are pretty tricky.
First Date - This one requires some breath support and the ability to change from low to high quickly.
So This is Love - 2 reasons: "Grass is always greener" and "so this is love," especially the latter that I kept screwing up.
Romeo Delight - There are about three or four phrases that will mess you up, then you have to get through the other 60.
Somebody Get Me a Doctor - Some really short phrases + some tough ones to figure out in the last verse.
Everybody Wants Some!! - Every phrase is just a bit different, making it really easy to screw up. Also, watch out for the last couple of phrases, as they charted a couple of the high pitched screams he does at the end.
Jump - I know this song back to front, and still had a lot of trouble with it. They chart every pitch he might be singing, and some pitches he isn't. not to mention the fact that almost all the phrases are really short.
I Want it All - Some tough phrases here, with some strange harmonies in the chorus occasionally, and a lot of variation in the verses, and the toughest phrases at the end for a bonus.
Double Vision - Has a lot of variation in the verses, and a lot of tricky stuff at the end, including the epic "yeah."
Beautiful Girls - This one has pretty much everything. Harmonies, breathing troubles, short phrases, and a couple that remind you of Stone Cold Crazy.
Semi-Charmed Life (sorry dramacomic) - Well, I hope you know this one REALLY well, and that you have the right VERSION of the song in your head (if it has a lyric about crystal meth, you have the wrong version). This one is probably the biggest endurance fest besides American Pie in the entire series. There's no breaks, and the verses are ridiculously tricky, especially the 2nd verse. I put this below Ice Cream Man because although it's really tricky to learn, once you learn it, it's not that terrible, and at least the chorus is easy. Ice Cream Man is easier to learn all the phrases imo, but it's insanely difficult to muster an FC run after that.
Ice Cream Man - The first half of this will frustrate to no end. It requires precise timing and pitch accuracy, and it's very difficult to figure out some of the pitches. Good luck with this one.

**dramacomic** · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:34 am Post subject:

GHVH might be a smidge more lenient than GHM, but from all I know it should be pretty much the same. I'd say you're just more used to the engine by now, so it might seem easier. The songs are generally shorter too, which works in its favor. Don't get too complacent though, it's still quite a tough game on vox. David Lee Roth hits much weirder notes than James Hetfield. I also have a long standing grudge against Semi Charmed Life. Nearly destroyed myself going for that FC. Other people might tell you Ice Cream Man is the hardest (and it's pretty rough too, make no mistake). I actually can't really remember any songs being easy in the game. Maybe The End of Heartache? Pretty Fly for a White Guy was supposed to be easy too, but the choruses tripped me up a lot.

Anyways, have fun! The FGFC shall definitely be yours before too long

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**ready2rock** · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:01 am Post subject:

**ready2rock** · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:08 pm Post subject:

Bump for some good progress on VH, Master Exploder FC, and my attempt to make the OPs look a little nicer.

Also, I'd appreciate feedback on my FC Breakdown so far on vocals
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**ready2rock** · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:49 pm Post subject:

Bump for being halfway there on vocals and to again beg for feedback on my FC breakdown.
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**dramacomic** · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject:

Nice progress on GHVH vox so far

Not many people have even played GHVH vox, and even fewer of that number are still active on the forums, which is why you might not be getting FC breakdown feedback. The other thing is, and I don't mean to discourage you too much, but I always disagree with any vox breakdown that isn't my own. Sure everyone is going to have their own opinions about what's hard on any instrument, but it's especially true for vocals. I don't think anyone can agree on what the hardest song in Smash Hits is, for example, and you'll definitely get some disagreements with what the hardest song in this game is. With regards to your breakdown specifically, I would never put Master Exploder first because the long phrase is only easy if you know it from RB2, and it's still much harder to me than anything in The End of Heartache or Best of You. I thought Come to Life was much easier than Loss of Control. Atomic Punk fell for me loooooong after Jump, but Jump was just more familiar to me. Those are just the big changes. And at the end of the day, these are all things that just I would change. It doesn't mean you should change it, and I honestly think every vox breakdown should be personal decisions instead of group decisions just so that people can compare notes. Anyways, hope that was somewhat useful feedback for you, might not have been what you wanted to hear, but I'd hate for it to go unreplied.

Good luck finishing up the game! It'll be interesting to see what you think the real toughies are besides the ones that everyone mentions (sneaking suspicion that Double Vision might end up higher on your list than you expected).
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**ready2rock** · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject:

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good luck on your next accomplishment and many more IMPRESSIVE FC'S

**ready2rock** · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject:

**dramacomic** · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject:

Congrats on knocking off Ice Cream Man! Definitely one of the hardest in the series. Your voice on the video sounds great too! I really envy people who can actually sound good while singing most of the lyrics and FCing at the same time.

After checking your scores, you also seem to have breezed through I'm the One and Double Vision, so now apart from Semi Charmed Life I can't see anything that should be too troublesome. Mean Street and So This Is Love both have some silly phrases, but nothing you can't handle. Looking forward to seeing this FGFC from you

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**ready2rock** · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:13 pm Post subject:

@dramacomic: Thanks for the kind words and for posting in my thread after most of my updates. I really appreciate it. I wouldn't say I "breezed through" Double Vision, but yes, I did get them both after making that update. Glad to hear that I've gotten the most difficult songs done. Oh, and on that note...

Bump for Semi-Charmed Life FC! FGFC should hopefully come in the next couple of days!
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**ready2rock** · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject:

Bump for the FGFC.

Well, exactly one month after I got the GH:M FGFC, I got GH:VH. That did not take even as close to the length of time I thought it would. This game was definitely easier than GH:M, but not easy by any stretch. David Lee Roth does a lot more vocal improvisation than James Hetfield does, and also has a lot more phrases where it's complicated to figure out the pitch. Also, the FC breakdown is complete and posted in the vocals forum.

Of course, the biggest celebration is: NO MORE FREEFORMS!!! THANK GOODNESS! I don't know how some of you guys can pull off the scores you do, but I sure can't. I'm so glad I don't have to deal with those anymore, and can move on to a much better vocals engine.

I'll be taking a break for a couple of days to rest my voice, then moving on to GH5.
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