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JCirri  





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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Through the Fire and Flames Reply with quote

Note Chart

Note: this thread is for star power discussion. For help on this song not related to star power, see The Official TTFAF Thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the problem with an SP path for this is that first you have to be able to hit all of the Star Power...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To anybody who doesn't know. The SP in measures 324-325 has been deemed impossible by many and to my knowwledge, has yet to be hit by anybody.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its hard to make a path for this song that you can actually follow. because i and probably many others cant hit even half of the SP phrases in the song.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'm guessing that the extremely good people at this song like kev, Priest, kov, hell, and chris can hit all of the SP phrases except the 26.6 NPS one...so it shouldn't be that bad.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

finding a sp path for this song probably doesnt even apply to 90% of the Guitar Hero universe, but out of curiosity, what is the optimal path, providing you hit ALL the sp phrases? Does anyone know yet?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ViPeR6 wrote:
finding a sp path for this song probably doesnt even apply to 90% of the Guitar Hero universe, but out of curiosity, what is the optimal path, providing you hit ALL the sp phrases? Does anyone know yet?


I believe the optimal path is the one Barbaloot posted in the TSAG forum on page 16.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c45/bbloot/TTFAF_Optimal.gif

I DID NOT COME UP WITH THIS PATH^
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edit: Ninja'd. I have a path I made for ParadigmShift originally that ignored that phrase, and was pretty much optimal besides that, and I'll have it posted up as soon as I have found a working uploader site (none seem to work for me!)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the SP path I used for 5-starring this monster.

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1623/sppathsf3.png

Green = Star Power phrase
Blue = Activation
Dark Green = Hard-to-hit phrase

Edit: Fixed a small mistake in the path
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

muna wrote:
To anybody who doesn't know. The SP in measures 324-325 has been deemed impossible by many and to my knowwledge, has yet to be hit by anybody.


I presume this is "The Red Snake" as I've seen people refer to it?

Is anyone working on this? Like, actually practicing / running through the part, making attempts etc? 26.6 nps seems... a little steep.. but... Surely it can't be IMPOSSIBLE?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe possible to combo a good portion of it, but this thing is basically a big zig zag, and even with my BiM training I know theres no way to do this one handed, even on the some of the slower speeds. Maybe some sort of tapping method eventually but, unlikely I think.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be more likely to hit One's "Fast Solo A," and that's 22.5 NPS and has a random yellow strum in it.

If anyone were to FC TtFaF's 26.6 NPS piece of crap, the persons hand would instantaneously spontaneously combust. Goodbye FC!

So yeah, were going to need to have an SP path that's optimal, sans "crazy-SP-phrase-from-wtf-hell."
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you ignore the impossible SP phrase, the optimal path should remain the same as my path (the one COBW3BB) posted, except for the last activation, which you would deploy immediately at measure 346 (and it would last only 6 measures, not 8).
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torchy wrote:
muna wrote:
To anybody who doesn't know. The SP in measures 324-325 has been deemed impossible by many and to my knowwledge, has yet to be hit by anybody.


I presume this is "The Red Snake" as I've seen people refer to it?

Is anyone working on this? Like, actually practicing / running through the part, making attempts etc? 26.6 nps seems... a little steep.. but... Surely it can't be IMPOSSIBLE?


I am a reasonably good GH player, I can barely hit this on slowest, and then bomb on slower. Full speed is ridiculous.
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