Hier Kommt Alex chugging riff 2 (wtf?)

**snowyporpoise** · Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 1655 Location: Burlington, ON

Is it just me, or does the second chugging riff randomly speed up in the middle of it? I can fc the first one easily, but the second one i cant...whats up with it?
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**zsjostrom35** · Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 2130 Location: Columbus, Ohio

It speeds up VERY slightly (from 133 BPM to 136), but I seriously doubt that's your problem. Personally, I always thought the second chugging riff sounded slightly out of sync compared to the first one; maybe it sounds like the tempo changes when it actually doesn't. In any event, you could try turning the guitar volume down from the audio menu; that helped me FC it since I could hear the drumbeats more easily and stay on the rhythm that way.
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**PiemanLK** · Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 4711 Location: /export/home

You're not alone. I always thought both the chugging riffs were off myself. I could never find a consistent speed; I was always falling above or behind the notes. But I could just be a bad alt-strummer.
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**yksi-kaksi-kolme** · Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 2803 Location: philly skramzzzz

I really think there's something wrong with the second one also.

There's not too much challenge to the riffs; the fret changes are all on downbeats and easy to time. The first one never gave me any challenge, but I would randomly miss on the second one even when using the same rhythm as the first part. I really don't know what the problem is with it, though...
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**googleimage** · Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 1229

I think you have to strum slightly ahead for both of them, and HKA certainly isn't alone. Seems like Helicopter and even TTFAF have this problem throughout the song. And let's not get into Go That Far.
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**Derektm** · Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 13 Location: Missouri

I never thought they sped up at all. I've FC'd the song and personally, I'd say its a bit out of sync, enough to make you miss anyway. Its probably just a chart Red Octane didn't sped much time on.
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**g0dly** · Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 635

i usually mess up because i strum that hammeron at the end. if you play the hammeron, it usually works, but if you dont you overstrum every time.

**StarStricken** · Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 280

Yes the speed randomly changes. I've noticed countless times where my strumming never changed but i missed anyways.
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**mikachu** · Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 39

Seems like maybe it's got a slight touch of the chart being slightly too fast for the music, resulting in synch issues in the second half of the song.

This is way more noticeable in Helicopter. I always ALWAYS broke combo on the long speed picking section, and wondered why, as it is not very challenging a section. I calibrated the lag to 50ms, and instantly FC'd it.

Perhaps calibrating the lag to like 20 or so will help for Heir Kommt Alex.

EDIT: holy shit, I just did that (20ms lag calibration) to TTFAF and got the 5* i've been attempting for the past week. Well over the cutoff actually. My score jumped from 550k to almost 590k.

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**AlderDragon** · Joined: 23 Feb 2009 Posts: 258 Location: PA

Yeah, I noticed this as well when I was trying to FC this song.

I've noticed on the Wii that certain things seem to be off-beat as opposed to other versions of the game (except perhaps ps2). In Slowest practice mode, the bass/rhythm is so far off of the regular track that it's nearly unplayable. I've listened to TTFAF on the Wii and 360 at exactly the same time, and I can notice a difference in the tempo of the drums in Post Insanity.

It does this for a few songs but that's beside the point. Where I was getting at with that was the audio settings. Adjust them so that the song sounds right to you. It's better to strum too slowly than to strum too quickly (if you are going for an FC). If you strum a bit too late, you will know because the note will come down farther than normal. If you strum too early, though, it's hard to tell unless you have it calibrated in a certain way.

The slight increase of speed in Hier Kommt Alex's second chugging section won't effect your performance, and doing exactly the same on both sections would probably be fine. Just keep trying. Good luck.

**AppleNick** · Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 120

Is it just me or are there more notes in the second Chugging Riff?

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**yksi-kaksi-kolme** · Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 2803 Location: philly skramzzzz