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SdS3030
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| BriGuy wrote: | | The fact is is that HMX has committed itself to releasing a shitload of high quality DLC at a lot better price and a much faster pace. |
Stop me if i'm wrong... but wasn't there a heap of complaints over the recent quality of DLC in RB? Personally I don't care how many songs we get or how often they are released, as long as they are quality tracks that i'll enjoy playing (the last 3 DLC packs for GH3 have been amazing) then they have my money.
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CorpusCollosum 
Joined: 28 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:25 am Post subject: Re: Must GH-series step up the DLC to keep track with Rock B |
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| Cjmainy wrote: | | Zeph wrote: | | With GH:WT and RB2 out, do you think NS must release more DLC to keep the players? |
*goes to game store* |
I got a good laugh from this. 
| AdamTL7 wrote: | | Yeah but GH : WT has free dlc every 10 seconds (Except for singers) |
As comedic as Adam may have intended this to be, this is actually a decent point that I think everyone has overlooked thus far. The custom song creator was probably meant to be one answer to the increased demand for new music and new charts. You make your own DLC ( though, the only downside being there won't be any competition amongst the rankings).
| FlimFlam wrote: | | What they should do is not have DLC, and instead put all of the songs on the game, such as the Morello, Slash, and Lou battles because they forget that not all GH players can have DLC. |
This statement is one part true, one thousand parts ignorant. Should the boss battles have come initially on the GH3 disc? Maybe so. Should Neversoft have anticipated that they would probably release Metallica's new album - and every other pack in between - and put it on the GH3 disc? Die.
| Nailuj wrote: | | Having a lot of content to choose from is what makes Rock Band a great party game. |
If I had to pinpoint one aspect of Rock Band that makes it a great party game - more so than current GH games - it would probably be the addition of drums and vocals. Maybe that's just my opinion.
| TheDave wrote: | | They need to [have more DLC] if they want to have a chance to be the better "full band" game. |
In the end, I really don't see the decision of which game is better or sells more being based off the quantity of DLC. Perhaps I'm in small company here, but I have hardly bought any DLC off the 360 marketplace for GH3 (save Muse and Dragonforce). Of course, I jump all over the free DLC, but, otherwise, it's pretty fucking expensive, especially when you're buying in packs.
| TheDave wrote: | | Not to mention they need to make it a choice to download individual songs, and NOT force people to buy a whole pack of songs. |
This is the obvious remedy. It would be silly for Neversoft not to start offering single songs as opposed to - or in addition to - song packs.
At any rate, it sounds like previous posters have confirmed that World Tour will be nearly on par with Rock Band 2's quantity of DLC.
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MSH-Hitman
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:04 am Post subject: |
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| As long as there is maybe a pack or two a month, I'm cool with whatever they do. They'll be doing more disk based stuff so that will be good and as long as they have some nice new stuff every month, I'll be cool with it. They don't need weekly DLC like RB to keep up with RB at all, especially since it's not like RB has gold every single week lol |
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X28KillsLaterX
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| they will have more dlc, but not as often as rock band or as good as rock bands... why? guitar hero comes out with a new game every 3 or 4 months... |
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Hafkie  
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Must GH-series step up the DLC to keep track with Rock B |
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| Nailuj wrote: | | Having a lot of content to choose from is what makes Rock Band a great party game. |
If I had to pinpoint one aspect of Rock Band that makes it a great party game - more so than current GH games - it would probably be the addition of drums and vocals. Maybe that's just my opinion.
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Agreed completely. I know 10 Rock Band Owners that have NO DLC. Hell, until the Music Store patch, they didn't even know the game had DLC! |
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born2bounce
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| X28KillsLaterX wrote: | | they will have more dlc, but not as often as rock band or as good as rock bands... why? guitar hero comes out with a new game every 3 or 4 months... |
Good Point! |
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Smeddy24
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| SdS3030 wrote: | | BriGuy wrote: | | The fact is is that HMX has committed itself to releasing a shitload of high quality DLC at a lot better price and a much faster pace. |
Stop me if i'm wrong... but wasn't there a heap of complaints over the recent quality of DLC in RB? Personally I don't care how many songs we get or how often they are released, as long as they are quality tracks that i'll enjoy playing (the last 3 DLC packs for GH3 have been amazing) then they have my money. |
I don't think people are upset about the Megadeth album, or the ATR pack, except it's lack of Six. And RB's DLC has been, on the whole, well received. A couple of ridiculous challenges every so often, with several weeks of songs that people buy because they like that band, typically.
I think Neversoft is too far behind now to ever catch up. They, it seems will continue their current business model. That is, dlc every couple of weeks, but focusing more on separate titles. It seems like casual audience is much more aware of new discs than they are of DLC. RB2 reflects that knowledge, as it tries to encourage players to buy things by making clear their existence. The rumors of a RB AC/DC disc seem to also reflect that.
I think this is worthy of being my 1500th post.
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BrianSpud33
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| SdS3030 wrote: | | Stop me if i'm wrong... but wasn't there a heap of complaints over the recent quality of DLC in RB? |
People will complain about anything, especially if they're so set on one specific band or genre to be included. Personally, I think because of the sheer variety of the RB song library that you'd be hard pressed to find anybody with serious, legitimate complaints about lackluster RB DLC.
As for the original question... yes and no. GH:WT will still probably outsell Rock Band due to the name recognition, but considering both the rate at which RB DLC is being added and some of the big-name artists and albums they've been able to add (and the fact that even some on-disc GH:WT songs have already been out or announced as upcoming RB DLC), Neversoft and Activison had better not hope to bank on the on-disc set list and three or four decent song packs like with GH3.
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thebluelizard
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| SdS3030 wrote: | | Stop me if i'm wrong... but wasn't there a heap of complaints over the recent quality of DLC in RB? |
i think pretty much everything for the past 2 months with the exception of 1 or 2 weeks has been solid gold.
they've been ramping up the quality leading to RB2's release, and with peace sells/moving pictures in a 2 week period following it doesn't look like they're slowing down the quality anytime soon. |
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metalrocks2340
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe Neversoft should release DLC every 2 weeks? |
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johnnylasvegas
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| i think its safe to say that gh and rb will both thrive and continue for the foreseeable future with or without dlc, i mean gh1 2 and 80's made it. if they just shovel out dlc, it may sell well, but thats only going to hurt the brand long term. quality, not only charts but bands and songs,i know iwill download anything immediatly if i know i like the band/song, but will normally not if i haven't even heard of them(peoples youtube vids help for that though) needs to be the top priority. i still wonder if these companies know who their customers are sometimes. so i would say, worry about quality, and then quantity. if every pack was as good as df or one of the early rb packs like queens of the stone age & black sabbath, no ones gonna complain they only got 2 or 3 amazing packs this month, and people who buy the game 6 months from now will have an amazing catalog, maybe that dlc selection that isn't a bunch of crap no ones heard of. i mean, i'm a dlc whore, but alot of times, i just gotta close my legs for this crap |
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Pengwyns
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I think NS has a uphill battle to climb with their DLC. Regardless of what they release for GHWT. RB has already built a library of songs from artists like Avenged Sevenfold, Black Sabbath, Boston, The Cars, David Bowie, Disturbed, The Grateful Dead, Judas Priest, Megadeth, Metallica, Nine Inch Nails, etc.
Basically there is already a deep and diverse collection of music available for RB and NS IMO needs to release a lot of solid DLC to be anywhere in the same discussion as RB.
Slightly off topic, but an important point as well. I think something that the folks who haven't spent a lot of time with Rock Band and looked at their DLC releases over time have to realize is that Rock Band (and now GHWT) is a full band game, not a guitar game.
A lot of the songs being labeled as 'bland' are very possibly songs which are simpler on guitar. These same songs might be awesome on drums (Move Along) or vocals (More Than a Feeling). There need to be songs released that are fun for all instruments which means having simpler guitar songs at times.
I can also tell you that some 'bland' songs such as El Scorcho, Simple Man, Train in Vain, etc. are among the most played songs when I get a group of people together to play RB. |
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johnnylasvegas
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| i do agree with you pengwyns about rb's dlc, and the lead they have. but in respect to the blandness, ( i love rb2's difficulty rating system, thats something they should tell you presale) i think both these companies need feedback systems, so in addition to sales, they have more info to give us content we want to buy....perhaps free dlc for people who complete a survey or something? i'd do it for free. i want to give them my money, if they give me something i want to play |
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eraser2224
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Velocity92C wrote: | | tbh, RB definitely has MORE dlc but I think gh's quality is much higher, there are so many packs in RB that are just very plain and not fun at all. quality > quantity, especially in this case. and lately GH has pumped out some insanely high quality charts. |
Joke post? GH3 has about 6 DLC songs worth playing (not counting the classic rock pack which are all on Rock Band with better charts): Dragonforce (assuming you like playing the same 8 minute song three times in a row) and the Virtuoso Pack. Rock Band has had more DLC worth getting each of the last two weeks than GH3 has had in its lifetime of nearly a year. |
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Deimor
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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As long as they keep bring out new retail releases and 1 or maybe 2 packs of DLC every month, I'll be happy.
On a side note, why is it considered 'selling out' to bring out many releases in a year but not to release a shitload of DLC? |
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