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Fred1000000  





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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3's and 7's makes sense. Think about it.

Third song in the seventh tier. BAM! Explained right there.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shotgunmerc wrote:
idk, the outro of CoD is such a choke fest it might get people angry if that was the last song. imagine FCing it up to the outro, choking and then having to face lou all pissed off and shit


But, as mentioned before, tiers are arranged by passability, but FCability. Placing songs based on how easy it is to FC them iss the scorehero way of thinking, and (just this once) it's not the right way.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some bands ask to be placed in certain tiers. Also, would it make much sense to put "Rock This Town" in Face Melters?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fred1000000 wrote:
3's and 7's makes sense. Think about it.

Third song in the seventh tier. BAM! Explained right there.


Yea, they planned to put it to third tier but then someone came up with this joke and they overcharted it like shit to make it happen.

tormentedbyu wrote:
Also, would it make much sense to put "Rock This Town" in Face Melters?


In GH2 songs are placed just by difficulty but in GH3 every tier has own musical style, if you know what i mean.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ana wrote:
Fred1000000 wrote:
3's and 7's makes sense. Think about it.

Third song in the seventh tier. BAM! Explained right there.


Yea, they planned to put it to third tier but then someone came up with this joke and they overcharted it like shit to make it happen.

tormentedbyu wrote:
Also, would it make much sense to put "Rock This Town" in Face Melters?


In GH2 songs are placed just by difficulty but in GH3 every tier has own musical style, if you know what i mean.


because Cliffs of Dover definitely belongs in the same tier musically as Raining Blood, Number of the Beast, One, and TDWDTG
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shotgunmerc wrote:
ana wrote:
In GH2 songs are placed just by difficulty but in GH3 every tier has own musical style, if you know what i mean.


because Cliffs of Dover definitely belongs in the same tier musically as Raining Blood, Number of the Beast, One, and TDWDTG


Well, if you squit your eyes and twist your head a little, it almost looks like that the tier name says "Attack of the Contrast"
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so this kinda goes along with this and i thought this would be easier than starteding my one topic.
Do you think guitar hero overcharted 3s and 7s or rockband undercharted it. or a combination of the two
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WiiRockDS wrote:
I also think it can be based on different difficulties, not necessarily Expert.
I don't think so. Before I Forget is the first truly difficult Hard song and one of the more difficult Expert songs. But it's one of the easier songs on Medium.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vossy003 wrote:
so this kinda goes along with this and i thought this would be easier than starteding my one topic.
Do you think guitar hero overcharted 3s and 7s or rockband undercharted it. or a combination of the two

I think the song is just power chords, meaning Rock Band was dead-on. Unless they were bar chords in which case GH was semi-right.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rohrk21 wrote:
It's subjective to the developers, I guess.

With that in mind, here's a quote from Brian Bright about it from that article in the topic that BriGuy made about GH3 being hard.

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Yeah, [GH3 was] too hard. A lot of that is chalked up to learning. Learning about the consumers and focus testing. In Aerosmith we made it much more linear, we devised a series of rules as to what constitutes a tier 6 hard song and what differentiates it from a tier 7 expert song, we came up with a rule set for this.


That said, unless I'm misunderstanding and these will first apply to WT, you do have to wonder how these "rules" put Dream On in the 5th tier. <_<


how do you know dream theater is on the 5th tier? and if you know the tiers then i would love to hear them, for real no one has said anything about tiers except merely there are none in this game. you play setlists or something
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yeah and i believe GH3 was the hardest game to beat, but the easiest to go back through and five star.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shananagans4 wrote:
rohrk21 wrote:
It's subjective to the developers, I guess.

With that in mind, here's a quote from Brian Bright about it from that article in the topic that BriGuy made about GH3 being hard.

Bright wrote:
Yeah, [GH3 was] too hard. A lot of that is chalked up to learning. Learning about the consumers and focus testing. In Aerosmith we made it much more linear, we devised a series of rules as to what constitutes a tier 6 hard song and what differentiates it from a tier 7 expert song, we came up with a rule set for this.


That said, unless I'm misunderstanding and these will first apply to WT, you do have to wonder how these "rules" put Dream On in the 5th tier. <_<


how do you know dream theater is on the 5th tier? and if you know the tiers then i would love to hear them, for real no one has said anything about tiers except merely there are none in this game. you play setlists or something


On does not equal theater
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The6thHorcrux wrote:


On does not equal theater


sorry sargeant smartass, i misread. im sure you have too, pretty sure very does occasionally
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shananagans4 wrote:
The6thHorcrux wrote:


On does not equal theater


sorry sargeant smartass, i misread. im sure you have too, pretty sure very does occasionally


That's a damn big mistake though.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

psychomonkey62 wrote:
shananagans4 wrote:
The6thHorcrux wrote:


On does not equal theater


sorry sargeant smartass, i misread. im sure you have too, pretty sure very does occasionally


That's a damn big mistake though.


hence occasionally lol, i read fast and sometimes i just skip right over words idk lol
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