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Shaffx95
Joined: 16 Aug 2010 Posts: 795
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Play TTFAF over and over again, unless you really hate this song. It will build up your strumming, fretting, and stamina (and it will help you to 5* it! )
Also, here are some FCs you should go for:
Cliffs of Dover - yeah, overtapping is the way to go, unless you can one-hand it
Don't Hold Back - i'm not kidding... The phazers are all about getting lucky enough to hit both in the same run, and the rest of the song is pretty easy.
Stricken - tap all Bs and Os in the last part of the solo, while keeping Y and R anchored (releasing Y when a R note comes, of course :P)
This:
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trevster10
Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 949 Location: Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Alright, I'm still struggling pretty badly with a bunch of songs. But, I think this needs to be said up front, I can't tap to save my life. I learned how to tap the ttfaf intro, but other than that, I can't do it at all. It's not that I don't think I could learn, it's just the transitioning from playing to tapping in the middle of the song is a concept I've yet to grasp. And that's why I think I can do the ttfaf intro tapping, because I can just start out tapping.
Now, onto the songs -
Suck My Kiss - I've had a couple of really close run-ins with this song. I haven't hit that quick strumming part yet, but I've missed the very first note only once and the same thing for the last note. It's weird. I guess I just need to grind this one out.
Before I Forget - I'm so close to this FC that I can taste it. I was just about able to get to the bridge part blind-folded, then the bridge would be a disaster and I would get nowhere. Well I finally, finally figured out a way to be semi-consistent in the bridge. So, you know what comes next. I start choking all over the place, could be in the GR's or maybe the strumming RY's. Finally got over that, and can get back to the bridge, and now I'm only missing one or two notes maybe in each run. The last part of it where there are 3 quick parts are what seem to get me, but not always. This one is so close.
Rock and Roll All Nite - I've spent a lot of time in practice with this one, but I just can't seem to get it down just right. The first part of the solo is tough to me, and I can barely FC it on slow. I tried looking up guides to this song, and I don't think there were any. Maybe I'm not even doing the right fingering?
Pride and Joy - It's literally just that one weird bit in Verse 3. Everything else is pretty rock solid. I just can't hit that for the freaking life of me. I've tried 2 or 3 different methods and none of them are consistent at all though. Somebody that has this FC could tell me what fingering they used?
So yeah, Cliffs of Dover and Stricken are gonna be hard to do until I can learn to go from playing to tapping in the middle of the song. Monsters is getting better, but still a long ways out. And My Curse can still go fuck itself.
I really do/would appreciate some sort of feedback. I have apparantly reached the point where I can't just get FC's all the time anymore, I'm having to bust my ass to get them. And I would appreciate any sort of advice that you guys give me.
Edit - Oh yeah, I forgot to say. I had a pretty good run on ttfaf yesterday, never getting out of the green in the solo, and missed the 4* cutoff by less than 2k. _________________
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WhYYZ
Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 3150 Location: The netherlands, Amsterdam
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:17 am Post subject: |
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For TTFAF I can only say: Only play the first half!
Get to Synth Death and restart.
Why?
Because up to that point the song is easy enough to get 300K.
Remember that you can have 500K if you FC up to the Synth Death so trying to gain points there is easier than in the solo.
22121(23)(12)
For P&J This part?
DO NOT ANCHOR!!!!
And you might want to consider hitting the late. _________________
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trevster10
Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 949 Location: Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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WhYYZ wrote: | For TTFAF I can only say: Only play the first half!
Get to Synth Death and restart.
Why?
Because up to that point the song is easy enough to get 300K.
Remember that you can have 500K if you FC up to the Synth Death so trying to gain points there is easier than in the solo.
22121(23)(12)
For P&J This part?
DO NOT ANCHOR!!!!
And you might want to consider hitting the late. |
300k by the time I get to synth death?
On my best run ever the other day, I had 215, at synth death. I am getting better at ttfaf, though. I can basically FC the intro everytime now, and I couldn't get through it without missing not even a month ago. So, I am making improvements.
And okay, awesome! I'm gonna go try not anchoring, and see if that helps any. Thanks for the reply! _________________
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trevster10
Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 949 Location: Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Have you ever heard of Star Power? Me either.
So, I actually only ended up with one post-bridge choke. Second time through the bridge I got it, and it was really pretty easy once I figured out a consistent method for the bridge. Oh well.
FC #46!!! _________________
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Jleggy12
Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 1383 Location: Staffordshire, England
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Go Trev! Nice to see a new FC from you. I reckon the floodgates will now open, we'll see 50 soon I'd go for RaRaN next, you should have that. The solo is like Baggage Car 2 in TKaR on GHA in the fact that it's random, and stuff like HTL Solo 2 on GHM. For both of those, I took it down to slowest and really studied the chart, so I new exactly where to strum and where to hopo. Work slowly up the speeds, you'll be able to FC it on Full Speed if you spend enough time For SMK, there's no special cheat method, I played it and Monsters for an hour straight before getting the FC, just keep at it That method works sometimes, If you have two songs you're close on alternate them every time you play. I got Stricken and Nothing For Me Here in that way.
Congrats again, and BiF at 46 is pretty awesome too _________________
GH1 44/47 GH2 61/64 GH80s 28/30 GH3 67/70 GHA 41/41 WT 85/86 M 48/49 SH 47/48 5 84/85 VH 44/47 WoR 85/93 Total 634/660
11:13 RheaultWnage_: it's -37°C where you live atm alex? :P
11:13 alexhaz64: -45 now/quite the cold front
11:14 Jleggy12: and that's in Kelvin :o
11:14 RheaultWnage_: damn thats pretty cold/-40 K xD/I think -45 is about the coldest I've ever felt
11:14 Jleggy12: round about -300 C :P
11:14 RheaultWnage_: maybe colder than what I've felt
11:14 alexhaz64: -38 >.>
11:15 RheaultWnage_: OH YOURE TALKING ABOUT THE NOTES LOL |
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trevster10
Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 949 Location: Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Jleggy12 wrote: | Go Trev! Nice to see a new FC from you. I reckon the floodgates will now open, we'll see 50 soon I'd go for RaRaN next, you should have that. The solo is like Baggage Car 2 in TKaR on GHA in the fact that it's random, and stuff like HTL Solo 2 on GHM. For both of those, I took it down to slowest and really studied the chart, so I new exactly where to strum and where to hopo. Work slowly up the speeds, you'll be able to FC it on Full Speed if you spend enough time For SMK, there's no special cheat method, I played it and Monsters for an hour straight before getting the FC, just keep at it That method works sometimes, If you have two songs you're close on alternate them every time you play. I got Stricken and Nothing For Me Here in that way.
Congrats again, and BiF at 46 is pretty awesome too |
Thanks Jleggy! Dang, I really do hope so. That first FC of the summer took so long, I hope I can go ahead and get some more now that I got the first one out of the way.
And yeah, I really think that Suck My Kiss will be my next FC. I've hit the quick strumming part or most of it, plenty of times before. I just either miss in the solo part leading up to it, or the last note, or something. It's come down to flukes that are keeping me from this FC, so it shouldn't be much longer for this one.
Then, I think it's pretty much a tossup between RaRAN and PnJ. Their both about equal in that they have relatively difficult parts that I should be able to hit with some practice. Now, I could go and figure out all of these methods myself, or just keep practicing at a method that is much harder than it has to be. I just haven't found the right method yet for either song. It's the quick R-Y-R-YB-RY bit in Verse 3 of PnJ, and the solo in RaRAN.
So, I probably rambled on a lot more than I really needed to but oh well. It's been a while since I've had an FC and I'm enjoying myself a little
Thanks again J! _________________
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voidedalive2x
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 7922 Location: jefferson city, MO
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:21 am Post subject: |
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BIF FC is :goodFcing:
Good luck on Pride And Joy and/or Stricken
(random trivia: Out of these three, The only one I haven't FCed is Stricken, largely cuz I suck at transitioning out of the first bit.) _________________
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Naruto42
Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 1289
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Stricken :
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3 for orange, 2 for blue, 1 for yellow and red, just slide keeping 1 anchored.
WhYYZ wrote: |
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And you might want to consider hitting the late. |
Anchor, but play the HOPO early. And get SURE you get the last R. This is the note so many people miss, that's why not anchoring may help you to insist on it, but you can also play it a bit early (not too much !).
Also, I'd like you to do a FC list of what you didn't FC please
If the breakdown doesn't seem logical to you, maybe mine can help you, so if it can help, maybe it won't, if so I'm sorry :
#40 Down'n'dirty
#43 Suck My Kiss
#45 Pride and Joy
#48 Monsters
#52 Rock and Roll All Nite
#53 Stricken
#55 My Curse
#57 Cliffs of Dover
So yeah I think you'd better work D'n'D first
And for suck my Kiss basically see if you changes of fret on an upstrum or not, try abusing the timing window maybe, get the right speed and good luck (maybe you can pray a bit too xD) _________________
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trevster10
Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 949 Location: Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Alright, I had a crazy couple of days with working (8 hours more than I was expecting, too), running and playing in my league, and attempting to play in another league. I'll get around to going after more FC's real shortly, though, probably tonight at the latest.
I'm gonna get to trying those methods on PnJ and Stricken, and I'm going to get back to grinding out Suck My Kiss, but for now, I'll just do the FC breakdown thing.
In my opinion, this will be how my remaining FC's will go -
Fairly easy to get with some help from you guys -
Suck My Kiss
Pride and Joy
Rock and Roll All Nite
With a little work, I can get these too (in order of likelihood) -
Black Sunshine
Rock You Like A Hurricane
Down 'N Dirty
Cliffs of Dover
Monsters
Songs that with a TON of work, and little luck, and definitely a lot of help from anyone who will give it to me (in order of likelihood) -
Stricken
My Curse
Black Magic Woman
Don't Hold Back
Holiday In Cambodia
Impulse
And oh by the way, I finally 4 starred ttfaf I've got ttfaf, twie, ttl, and rabl left for a FG5* _________________
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Benster26
Joined: 31 Jan 2009 Posts: 1348 Location: London, England
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:53 am Post subject: |
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trevster10 wrote: |
In my opinion, this will be how my remaining FC's will go -
Fairly easy to get with some help from you guys -
Suck My Kiss
Stricken
Monsters
With a little work, I can get these too (in order of likelihood) -
Black Sunshine
Rock You Like A Hurricane
Cliffs of Dover
Rock and Roll all Night
Songs that with a TON of work, and little luck, and definitely a lot of help from anyone who will give it to me (in order of likelihood) -
Down 'n' Dirty
My Curse
Black Magic Woman
Don't Hold Back
Holiday In Cambodia
Impulse
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I realy do think that monsters and stricken are easiers than RaRaN, the solo is so fricken hard and dont underestimate down 'n' dirty, well I did, and I still havent fced it :O but each to there own
Edit: Wow I've missed alot, just read through your thread and you've been beasting, 46 fcs...
Also, what happend to dan the bib? _________________
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trevster10
Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 949 Location: Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Benster26 wrote: |
I realy do think that monsters and stricken are easiers than RaRaN, the solo is so fricken hard and dont underestimate down 'n' dirty, well I did, and I still havent fced it :O but each to there own
Edit: Wow I've missed alot, just read through your thread and you've been beasting, 46 fcs...
Also, what happend to dan the bib? |
Monsters and stricken easier than RaRaN? I mean, I don't think they are that much harder, but harder, nonetheless.. I don't really know why the solo in Monsters is that hard, it just is. I don't even really know how to approach that one? And stricken is just tough, because I don't know how to tap. I mean, I can tap the intro to ttfaf, but that is the beginning of the song, and I don't have to worry about transferring from tapping to playing in the middle of the song. Or FCing it.
But, I'm up for any kind of advice you give me! Lol, well thank you! I'm finally getting to where I want to be in this game after having played it for like 4 years!
And oh, well I'm not sure. Last summer, he was having some personal difficulties, and he needed to step away from Scorehero for a while, and that's when I took over the Rivalry. But, I haven't heard from him since, so I'm not sure. He may be gone, for good.. _________________
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dave0113
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 1426 Location: LaGrange, New York
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Which part of RaRaN gives you the most trouble. Is it m89-90 of the solo, another part of the solo, or the 19 nps sweep at the end? _________________
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Benster26
Joined: 31 Jan 2009 Posts: 1348 Location: London, England
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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trevster10 wrote: |
Monsters and stricken easier than RaRaN? I mean, I don't think they are that much harder, but harder, nonetheless.. |
For me the monsters solo just happend and I got the fc that day, stricken, however I just practiced the solo everynow and again and kept improving and even gaining some consistency, even though they were consistent -1, -2 lol But I knew that I could hit it, first real run, fc. The best bit was that it was the first time I had hit the full solo.
trevster10 wrote: | I don't really know why the solo in Monsters is that hard, it just is. I don't even really know how to approach that one? |
Assuming you just need help with the solo, try and strum only when it needed, use all the ho/po. The strums are all on beat so it shouldn't be to hard to hit, however I found it really hard to have much consistency with it.
But if you do go for the fc be sure to practice the final chorus (I think) where there is a pattern change, only takes out one note but I overstrummed there twice!
trevster10 wrote: | And stricken is just tough, because I don't know how to tap. I mean, I can tap the intro to ttfaf, but that is the beginning of the song, and I don't have to worry about transferring from tapping to playing in the middle of the song. Or FCing it. |
Try tapping the bridge of monsters or you could check out the tapping guide [url=http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=45137&highlight=tapping+guide[tapping guide][/url].
edit: Dam I forgot how to title links
But for Stricken, I just tapped the blues and oranges, but I've seen one method for each quad (are they quads?) where you, with two fingers, quickly flick orange and yellow and just play a standard quad with your left hand.
trevster10 wrote: | But, I'm up for any kind of advice you give me! Lol, well thank you! I'm finally getting to where I want to be in this game after having played it for like 4 years! |
We push ourselves to hard on sh, we'll never really get to where we want to be, ombfsfc...optimal
trevster10 wrote: | And oh, well I'm not sure. Last summer, he was having some personal difficulties, and he needed to step away from Scorehero for a while, and that's when I took over the Rivalry. But, I haven't heard from him since, so I'm not sure. He may be gone, for good.. |
Ah, its a shame, i really enjoyed watching his and your rivarly you were insanly close...
Dont tell him, but you were always my favourite _________________
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trevster10
Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 949 Location: Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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dave0113 wrote: | Which part of RaRaN gives you the most trouble. Is it m89-90 of the solo, another part of the solo, or the 19 nps sweep at the end? |
Yes, that's basically it. I mean, I'm not that consistent at every other part of the song, but m89-90 is by far the worst for me. _________________
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