Lou Reed/Metallica - First song released

**Bradmasta** · Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 2276 Location: Virginia

This album is horrible. There are barely ANY redeeming factors in this album aside from maybe the instrumentation on a few songs. The vocals are just...there is no word to describe how horrid and unfitting they are. I mean it makes Load (IMO) look like a good album, and I can't stand to listen to it. I don't know what possessed them to do this. The only thing I can think of is money, but even then they should've realized that this wasn't going to do that well. I've only heard maybe one or two reviews out of hundreds give this album a good review, and I agree with the ones that said it tanks. Hopefully the next album they put out will at least be on par with Death Magnetic, which honestly is a pretty solid album.
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**Xtresso** · Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 1575 Location: Toronto, Canada

You act like this is Metallica putting out an album. It's Lou Reed & Metallica. Just like Velvet Underground & Nico wasn't a Nico album. Lou Reed more than likely had all the creative power here. He's a man who clearly does not give a fuck about any popular response to his music (see Metal Machine Music). The album obviously sucks balls. Nobody in their right mind would deny that. But to hear people say "OH NO METALLICA SUCKS NOW DEATH MAGNETIC WAS BETTER."

Yeah. Because that was a Metallica album. This is not. Metallica is making another overproduced album with zero dynamic range to satisfy you as we speak. But lay off Lou Reed. He doesn't want you to like his music, so it's useless to complain. In fact, given how Metal Machine Music was probably just to troll his record label I don't think it'd be much of a stretch to say he did this just to piss off ignorant Metallica fans.

It worked.
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**Bradmasta** · Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 2276 Location: Virginia

**Xtresso** · Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 1575 Location: Toronto, Canada

My point is it's not meant to be a follow-up to Death Magnetic as so many Metallica fans seem to think. It's a totally separate deal. Kanye West put out some god-awful verses featured on other peoples' work (see: Forever by Drake) between his actual albums but that didn't stop his fans from creaming their pants when My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy came out. So Metallica contributed to a complete atrocity. Whatever. Like I said, Death Magnetic 2.0 will be here soon enough.

I guess I do have to acknowledge that Metallica is somewhat at fault in the crime against humanity that is Lulu. But Metallica fans seem to think this is the end of Metallica, saying 'its even worse than [insert least favourite Metallica album]'. Realistically it should be compared to Lou Reed/Velvet Underground albums, as it's the brainchild of Lou Reed and has more in common musically with his work.

Comparing it with his catalog, it again comes in near the bottom.

Obviously this is a bit of a stain on Metallica's track record, but it's not a Metallica album.

Lastly, try listening to metal machine music from start to finish on vinyl. You can't because 1) it's just weird white noise for an hour and a half and 2) it ends on an infinite loop. After you try that, maybe you'll realize that Lou Reed lives to make weird shit that nobody likes. Some hipsters just pretend to like some of it.
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**BloodyFistHole** · Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Posts: 556 Location: Australia

This is the fifth time I've tried to write this post and I'm going to keep it short, because I can't explain it properly. What I've been trying to say here is basically, I'm listening to this album again (first time since it was released), with a completely open mind and I'm really enjoying it. Maybe I'm just in that special zone you sometimes get into when you're hyper-focused on music and feeling a certain way, but my mind is managing to comprehend the music, something that I just couldn't do on release day.

Of course, starting the album on release day hearing the first lyrics "I would cut my legs and tits off when I think of Boris Karloff..." is a great way to throw you off. It completely shattered my expectations of what the album would sound like. Maybe now I just know what to expect.
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**MSH-Hitman** · Joined: 27 Aug 2007 Posts: 4481 Location: Florida

If you can pull any any bit of value out of that slop, then good for you lol

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**JNCarvalho** · Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 561 Location: Portugal

I like Lou Reed and I can hardly stand Metallica. People who like Lou Reed say it's an awful album. People who like Metallica say it's an awful album. It's hard to get in the mood to actually listen like this.
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