The Quest Mode Multiplier Rivalry - Week 8 stuff

**JosephL** · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject:

Lunatic Fringe
Much easier than Seven Nation Army.

There are two self-evident activations. Activate instantly on both.
In the long sustain part, there are two RY chords, the second chord being a sustain. This is where the first activation will end, so strum that second one early.
Upperbound is 32.457x.

I think my figuring might be off, though, since I just calculated 35.019x for Psychosocial's optimal. I'll keep looking and see if I got anything wrong.
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**ThunderShade** · Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 350 Location: Scotland

The base score isn't exactly the score given by playing whole song at a 1x multiplier (check Yes We Can for instance. The few holds would not add up to xxx90) so unless you know the exact base scores, any predictions for the average multiplier will be off. I got exactly the same multiplier for Psychosocial and 33.xxx for 7NA, so this is my best guess.

BTW, getting that 3rd Y in 7NA is a 106.9 ms double squeeze, which I don't think is possible in this engine.

EDIT : Never read the part where you used Ruby Danger's cutoffs. Hm. Maybe they predict it using the above formula?
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**JosephL** · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject:

I'm pretty sure I know what I got wrong on Psychosocial. I've been thinking, and I'm pretty sure that what I did was call the x2 section of my math as 450 base points, but it should have been 400. This means that the x36 section is 50 points higher (since I back into the x36 section), and therefore, the optimal score is 1,700 points higher than what I originally had, which would make up the .015x difference.

ThunderShade, I'm reasonably, but not totally sure that ever since GH3, the max squeezes are 111 1/9 ms (1/4 of a beat at 135 BPM), but since you've gotta squeeze already to get to the 2nd one, I would be pretty surprised if anyone were to get the third.
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**ThunderShade** · Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 350 Location: Scotland

**JosephL** · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:18 am Post subject:

**JosephL** · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:20 pm Post subject:

Wow, I must have seriously messed up the calculations for 7NA; I just redid it (thankfully, I didn't need to path it again), and I got 33.904x as upperbound. Does this jive with your findings, guys?

Also, recalculated Lunatic Fringe and confirmed 32.457x; I originally had 32.464x posted here, but I remembered that I didn't have ticks right at the end of the first activation. I'm just gonna chalk 7NA up to my own error. However, the fact that pathhero's charts for WoR don't count the points for sustains that started on previous measures doesn't help. Also, I'm new to pathing on all-powerful, so it'll take a while for me to get comfortable.

Question: would you rather I not post paths or upperbounds? Is it confusing you guys? It is a pretty effective tool sometimes; I wouldn't have known that I missed optimal on I'm Not Okay (I Promise) on my first try without calculating it. But I don't want to post erroneous information; I've got too much pride in my math abilities for that. ;-)
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**ThunderShade** · Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 350 Location: Scotland

**JosephL** · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:15 pm Post subject:

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**JosephL** · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject:

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**ThunderShade** · Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 350 Location: Scotland

Seven Nation Army (Better path)

The main difference is at the start. There are three ways (of varying difficulty) to do this step. You want to leave with a combo 1 smaller than you would if you were going to FC.
1 - Miss the 2nd note. The easiest way. Thanks to Casey your streak of 1 will survive. You won't get optimal, but you most likely won't anyways.
2 - Hit the 1st note early. Do a quick gallop in the middle of the first note's hold part (near the 2nd note) and then hit the 2nd note. You can get optimal multiplier with this (you can lose 9 ticks here and still get it) but if for whatever reason you care about the actual score, read on.
3 - Hit the 1st note early. Do two overstrums in the hold part near the end to kill your shields, then right after the end of the hold hit orange, strum (breaking your combo), and then quickly hit the 2nd note.
You'll know you've succeeded if the first note at 3x is the yellow note. The first act is more-or-less the same. I would recommend that you do not whammy the first phrase, and just focus on activating immediately, since you'll still overlap the next phrase anyways. Now during the first set of chords, hit the seventh RB early so you keep the activation going. Nothing else changes until the last SP in this activation (same as Joseph's path). This time, hit the 3rd red note as late as possible. Then, later on there is a Y hold you must hit a bit early (the one after the B note mentioned in Joseph's path). Now at the end you can get all three yellows and the orange under SP without much difficulty, instead of just two of the yellows.
The 2nd act is the same, but you must hit the 5th GR chord (including the one that is the last note of the SP phrase) very late. Now, hit the 3rd red hold after the long orange hold very very early, so it ends early. For optimal, you have to hit the next green also very early so all of its ticks are under SP, but not losing any of the R hold's ticks (this is why optimal is so hard). The last act is the same as Joseph's path. Take my advice from the first act as it still applies here.
Optimal is 33.976x
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