Xbox One Revealed!

**raynebc** · Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 992

It would be better if they allowed the option to refuse complete hard drive installation so that the disc is required to launch the game (the way it works now). This could require being online during launch of the game (to validate that the game's serial number hasn't been installed to a drive), but at least it wouldn't break the used/rental game market.

**inv4der** · Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 9656 Location: Meridian, ID

**Cabanon** · Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 6464 Location: Quebec, Canada

**CloudFuel** · Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 1030 Location: Houston, TX

Sign away gents and gals...

http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-make-the-xbox-one-backwards-compatible?utm_source=guides&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created
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**inv4der** · Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 9656 Location: Meridian, ID

**CamelTower** · Joined: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 477 Location: Wisconsin

So, upon reading that article that INV4DER posted a couple of pages back, from my understanding games that are not registered to your xbox will only work so long as the disc is present in the xbox, but if you want to play the game without the disc, you will have to buy the rights to the game. That's actually pretty cool, because you CAN play the used game so long as you borrowed the disc. Not sure if my understanding is flawed here.

One thing that irks me is that MS decided to create a completely new headset jack in their console, because apparently only they will be releasing headsets designed for xbox1. To my current knowledge, NO current headsets will work with the new console. And, the only company that MS is apparently working with is Turtle Beach, which make awful headsets compared to Steel Series or Astro-gaming. So, this will force these other companies to make adaptors that will likely lower the quality of the sound and cost significantly extra to the consumers. So, looks like I am not buying a new headset anytime soon.

I'm pretty impartial to xbox1 atm, I'll wait for E3 to make any real judgments. I could give a damn about the entertainment aspect of the console, I'm just a gamer.

**Mr.Scientist** · Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 1828 Location: Quebec City, QC

**FlannelJacket** · Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 921 Location: :U

a petition isn't likely to get backwards compatibility included with the xbone

it goes something like the system runs on x86 hardware opposed to whatever proprietary cpu it was using before so they'd basically need to build a 360 into the thing to make BC work and since companies see BC as a small market that only gets smaller (ie why sony removed BC from ps3s very early on) its probably not worth the extra production/selling costs when they're already bundling a kinect with every box

I think it'd be nicer for sure if companies were more forward thinking and could let it happen (especially with digital downloads) but I guess it's just not worth it unless they're nintendo
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**Squirrel** · Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 2:37 pm Post subject:

**GuitarHailz** · Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 4910 Location: Austin, Texas

Yeah, I admit backwards compatibility was unrealistic to imagine (and let's be honest, when was the last time I played an original Xbox game on my 360 anyway?). I think it's the used games stuff that really put me off and rightfully so. The idea isn't necessarily bad: I would totally pay the used games fee if the overall cost of new games went down ($40?), or if I knew my fee was going to the developers (although we all know MS will take a hefty share). The common argument to this I've been seeing are the PC Gamers going "Quit complaining about having to be online to play your games and not being able to share games! PC Gamers have always had to do that!" Yeah, that's true. But PC Gamers also don't have to pay $60-$70 for games a majority of the time. If you wait for Steam Sales you can get many games for half that or less. These requirements totally make sense to me, that is if MS realizes that periodic sales and lowering their prices can be profitable in the long run.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/05/nyu-used-games-study/

But it's no lie that I use my 360 for Netflix and youtube more than games at this point, so for the console to go in the "all-in-one entertainment" direction isn't unwelcome. Even though the constant internet and Kinect requirements are a non-issue for me, I can totally see why people are upset about it. Sure, most people that are interested in video games have internet in 2013. But not everyone has good internet and not everyone has internet to their consoles (that was a big problem for me in college, and I would imagine college kids to be a decent portion of their target audience here). But I'm not writing it off just yet, the games announced at E3 will ultimately make many of our decisions (at least right now). The more I hear about it the more I can understand their reasoning behind certain decisions, so we'll see I guess.

(Also I'm totally for calling the new box the Xone or the XBone, though we'll all probably just call it The Xbox when it arrives)
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**inv4der** · Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 9656 Location: Meridian, ID

**GregoryZero** · Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 2338 Location: California

**inv4der** · Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 9656 Location: Meridian, ID

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main

Well there's a thing.
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**raynebc** · Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 992

It looks like they're being a little less hostile toward giving/reselling a game disc than I was expecting. Still not as good as the current game disc market is, but we'll see how it goes.

**Squirrel** · Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:03 pm Post subject: