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Deedooh
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| Warhiem wrote: | I don't know if I am the biggest fan of the Phish pack. I have it, but aside from the solos I didn't find the songs to be too much fun.
If you play drums get All the World is Mad, it has a great drum track.
And one of my favorite tracks overall would be The Silence is Deafening, has an awesome guitar and drum chart. |
To be honest there's a *shitload* more good expert drum charts compared to expert git. The only real annoying (and bad ones) are the insanely fast double-kick charts or lightling fast double-patterns. If you use vanilla gh drumkit that is.... with Ions or V-drums nothings impossible.... ok, make that a handful is  |
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toymachine 
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-04-11-activision-guitar-hero-not-necessarily-dead
| Quote: | Activision: "Guitar Hero on hiatus, we're not ending it"
Activision's Dan Winters has told GamesIndustry.biz that the Guitar Hero franchise is not necessarily dead, merely "on hiatus" for now.
Speaking as part of a larger interview to be published later this week, Winters revealed that the game could still see a return to the shelves, as long as the publisher sees an opportunity for it to succeed.
"Actually, just to clarify, we're just putting Guitar Hero on hiatus, we're not ending it," Winters explained. "We're releasing products out of the vault - we'll continue to sustain the channel, the brand won't go away. We're just not making a new one for next year, that's all."
Guitar Hero was originally culled as part of the cuts which Activision enacted in February in an attempt to concentrate business on a number of 'tentpole' titles. 500 jobs were also shed during that process.
Previously, Activision had issued a statement announcing that the business unit handling Guitar Hero would be disbanded. "Due to continued declines in the music genre, the company will disband Activision Publishing's Guitar Hero business unit and discontinue development on its Guitar Hero game for 2011," a press release read.
At its peak Guitar Hero was one of Activision's most bankable franchises, in part due to the high price of games bundled with plastic controllers. But a quick succession of sequels and spin-offs saw the series suffer from fatigue in the fickle console market.
As part of the same interview, Winters also revealed that he believes that another axed title, True Crime: Hong Kong, would have been a relatively high-scoring game, but would not have presented an adequate commercial opportunity for the publisher, as the presence of games like Red Dead Redemption make the genre too competitive.
"We think that the game was tracking to be a very good game," Winters said. "The question was really the size of the prize based on how good it could be. We are confident that thing would of been eighty plus. Eighty five maybe. They're a really talented group at United Front.
"We were really confident that they were tracking towards a very good game. The challenges in the market place right now, when you're talking about open-world games that are going to compete with titles like Red Dead Redemption, expectations for the consumer are really high.
"That would have been, and still might end up being, a very successful mid-tier opportunity for someone. But, as I said, we changed our business model to where we were going to change our business model to focus disproportionately on three big, huge monsters. Those three monsters are the Bungie, Call of Duty and Spyro titles.
"So that left the True Crime title being a mid-tier opportunity which we felt was an opportunity cost against other things. But we have a lot of confidence in the quality of the studio and the quality of the title, just not in the scale of the opportunity."
Those sentiments seem to conflict slightly with the thoughts of Eric Hirschberg, who was quoted as telling an investor call that the game "just wasn't going to be good enough."
Following the cancellation, True Crime developer United Front announced redundancies.
Dan Winters will be speaking at the Festival of Games, April 28-29. More information about the event can be found here. |
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ShiftBreaker
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I didn't realise that Spyro was such a massive series still.
But this is great to hear.
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MSH-Hitman
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| Eh, it's nice to see that Guitar Hero will come back someday, but it's such a shame that their only idea to try and make GH a viable business opportunity again, was to shut it down, fire people, and then just sit on it for the next year or two while they probably go about rebuilding the series. It's never gonna make the kind of money it use to back in the GH3 days. |
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ThunderAlex
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Well, I can't wait for Guitar Hero to come back. I might even get that new game, and take myself back to the old, old good days of GH. I've probably forgotten by now how to play right xD
I just hope they don't change their plans...
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BShea
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I still think it's a bad idea to put GH on a break, to be perfectly frank. By the time it comes back, most of the hardcore players (the majority of the remaining fanbase when WoR was released) will have either moved on from the genre, or adapted to Rock Band.
Activision's business plan may work in other industries, but killing their franchises off one by one until they only have Call of Duty doesn't seem to be viable in the long run.
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GuitarHailz 
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I agree with BShea, but at the same time, it could be cool to put the series on a break, wipe the slate clean and then re-imagine it.
I mean, I love GH the way it is, but building everything up from scratch while still remembering from the past games what was successful and what wasn't, I think it has potential to be something cool. I do 100% agree that it was stupid to put it on such a hiatus that they would lay off hundreds of people. But if it comes back at all it could maybe bring back the arcade game goodness of the genre (because honestly, I don't think that many people want to simulate music hyper-accurately or even painstakingly learn to play real guitar... I know I just like to play a game and goof around like the good old arcade days  ).
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Interesting.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6308336.html
"Actually, just to clarify, we're just putting Guitar Hero on hiatus, we're not ending it," Winters said. "We're releasing products out of the vault--we'll continue to sustain the channel, the brand won't go away. We're just not making a new one for next year, that's all." |
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ShiftBreaker
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The vault?
...Well, I'm sure that everyone knows what I want now, anyway.
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perhaps that means they have more finished DLC just sitting around. or maybe it just means exports. i won't keep my hopes up at all though.
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...Spyro is a massive franchise?
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Hopefully a break of a year or two will re-ignite GH's appeal with the general public. Certainly in Europe RB doesn't have that big of an audience, and GH is by far the bigger brand, so who knows.
Would love to see Guitar Hero 3DS at some point, a game with notes flying at your face is perfect for 3D visuals.
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| MSH-Hitman wrote: | | Eh, it's nice to see that Guitar Hero will come back someday, but it's such a shame that their only idea to try and make GH a viable business opportunity again, was to shut it down, fire people, and then just sit on it for the next year or two while they probably go about rebuilding the series. It's never gonna make the kind of money it use to back in the GH3 days. |
It does make sense though. The hate of GH comes from the "They're milking it" mentality. As long as everyone is hating on it for being overdone, all they can do is sit on it for a year.
WoR was epic enough, if they can top that in 2012, there will be hope for them yet assuming Rock Band and the genre itself doesn't burn out before then.
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Most of you guys on this site need to drop the GUITAR and pick up the other instruments. Really.
What do we have today? 99% guitarrists amongst veteran players?
This is one major reason for the GH downfall. Your endless input to Neversoft for more TTFAF songs doing nothing good but scaring the newbs away. The competitiveness.
Don't get me wrong. I was once like that (and still is considering the leaderboards;). Then I picked drums up (waaaaaaaay too late) and that changed my whole perspective on this game. |
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Deedooh
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| DVDSmith wrote: | Hopefully a break of a year or two will re-ignite GH's appeal with the general public. Certainly in Europe RB doesn't have that big of an audience, and GH is by far the bigger brand, so who knows.
Would love to see Guitar Hero 3DS at some point, a game with notes flying at your face is perfect for 3D visuals. |
Anyone who failed to FC a song for the 356th time (you know, that GH2 deja vu) - not because of lacking the necessary skill, but because of the anal RB hopo's alone - will never *ever* consider Rock Band as an alternative.
The only people really enjoying Rock Band are casual newbs playing medium and hard.
And if this post came across as an "competitive" opinion, I apologize |
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