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ElementOfZero
Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 2270 Location: Lake Park, Georgia
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:49 am Post subject: |
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I do. But in this case where people are asking how Reptilia can be considered easy, I have to chime in.
All these people, including yourself, are doing exactly what you said in taking personal strength and weaknesses into account on how difficult the songs are to them now. To me, that's too biased. The statistics are an average of peoples strengths and weaknesses and don't take into account personal biases for all the songs. If you really want to create an accurate breakdown from easiest to hardest FC it has to be based on will the average person find this or that harder.
And this particular case, Repitilia is obviously an easier song for the average person.
There are holes, i admit, with the statistics (HiC for example) which is where the more heated debates will come in and will be the meat and potatoes of this thread as to why it's relevant over the FC statistics. _________________
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trevster10
Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 949 Location: Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:16 am Post subject: |
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ElementOfZero wrote: | I do. But in this case where people are asking how Reptilia can be considered easy, I have to chime in.
All these people, including yourself, are doing exactly what you said in taking personal strength and weaknesses into account on how difficult the songs are to them now. To me, that's too biased. The statistics are an average of peoples strengths and weaknesses and don't take into account personal biases for all the songs. If you really want to create an accurate breakdown from easiest to hardest FC it has to be based on will the average person find this or that harder.
And this particular case, Repitilia is obviously an easier song for the average person.
There are holes, i admit, with the statistics (HiC for example) which is where the more heated debates will come in and will be the meat and potatoes of this thread as to why it's relevant over the FC statistics. |
I can agree with this.
I just want to make sure everyone isn't going "Oh. That one has a higher percentage rate, it's probably the next easiest." If everyone does that, then we aren't really getting anywhere. _________________
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voidedalive2x
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 7922 Location: jefferson city, MO
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:22 am Post subject: |
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THis doesn't even have to involve personal bias!
The two main hard parts in Reptilia are both objectively and subjectively harder than pretty much everything in Anarchy and Miss Murder!
Reptilia's pre-chorus chord changes have their competitor with Miss Murder's Chorus chord-changes, but those are edged by the add difficulty of switching from doing chords to single notes, and from switching chords all over the place, while Miss Murder's chords generally have a fret you can hold down most of the time, and are arguably comparatively simple. Anarchy has some odd chord-changes, but they aren't objectively difficult enough to be considered.
Reptilia's chorus note-changing again has it's best competitor with Miss Murder's post-chorus 1 strumming (and the outro strumming, I suppose). Here, the only thing that Miss Murder can possible up Reptilia on is the fact that PC1 strumming can sound rather off-time which can trip up newcomers. Anarchy has the quick hammer-ons as well, which are far more numerous than anything in Reptilia or Miss murder and are faster than nearly all sections except the sweeps in Reptilia's solo (confirm this?), but the way they're placed around the RY chords means you can just 11 slide or play 12 to hit them, while Reptilia requires you to go all over the frets, just like with the pre-chorus chords.
No, I cannot see any objective reason why Reptilia is the easier song for the average person.
(Oh, and Spoon, I'm still standing by my vote that Anarchy is the easiest choice, in case you're confused about that.) _________________
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yksi-kaksi-kolme
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 2803 Location: philly skramzzzz
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Reptilia. It REALLY isn't that hard. There's no way that Reptilia's prechorus chord changes with single notes can be considered harder than Miss Murder's or AitUK's chord changes lol, plus Interlude 2 strumming in Miss Murder was incredibly hard when I tried to FC it because of the stupid hammerons _________________
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Naruto42
Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 1289
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Ok, I'd like to do something.
Look at the votes :
Reptilia: 9
01) Shaffx95
02) ElementOfZero
03) VeryMetalChewie
04) ready2rock
05) Bulblax
06) greenbaymackey
07) Noite
08) Vigarde
09) yksi-kaksi-kolme
Anarchy In The UK: 6
01) darkshad0w
02) THABEAST721
03) voidedalive2x
04) trevster10
05) Naruto42
06) PiemanLK
Miss Murder: 2
01) briland
02) werelord
Sunshine Of Your Love: 2
01) SpoonMan
02) JosephL
She Bangs The Drums: 2
01) ThunderAlex
02) Jleggy12
I think only Reptilia or Anarchy can win this round.
So I'd like everyone who voted for another song to choose the easiest between Reptilia and Anarchy. I really think it can be useful. _________________
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briland
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 780
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Alright, i'll agree with that. As I found it quite a toss up between reptillia and miss murder anyways. I personally can't understand how Anarchy is easier than the other three songs that have been voted for anyways.
Change my vote to reptilia. |
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FL4RE
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 4178 Location: Liverpool yano
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:45 am Post subject: |
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It's out of Reptilia & Anarchy in the UK now...I think it would be Reptilia from me since I remember Anarchy in the UK being FC'ed quite late on when I was going for them. _________________
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Naruto42
Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 1289
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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11 for Reptilia and 6 for Anarchy... The margin is there now.
Should we vote on the next question or wait for SpoonMan ? _________________
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PiemanLK
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 4712 Location: /export/home
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Naruto42 wrote: | Should we vote on the next question or wait for SpoonMan ? |
I'm waiting for Spoony so I don't confuse him. _________________
[quote=''Otend'']Id come up with a long post, but Pieman said what we are all thinking, as usual[/quote]
[quote=''youhas'']EDIT TO ADD: Hey, post #3000! Neat! I will eagerly anticipate my set of ScoreHero-branded steak knives within six to eight weeks.[/quote]
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Jellu
Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 1652 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Reptilia is easiest. _________________
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Goho
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 272
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Reptilia for sure, |
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voidedalive2x
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 7922 Location: jefferson city, MO
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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*sigh*
Okay, looking over Anarchy's chart, I'll concede that it's not up for debate yet.
However, I still find Reptilia's two hard parts harder than pretty much everything in Miss Murder (EXCEPT interlude 2, but not enough), so my vote gets switched to Miss murder. _________________
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PuppetMaster9
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1389 Location: [SUBJECT HOMETOWN HERE]
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Reptilia. Definitely. _________________
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SpoonMan
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 3631
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:21 am Post subject: |
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Anarchy In The UK: 5
01) darkshad0w
02) THABEAST721
03) trevster10
04) Naruto42
05) PiemanLK
Miss Murder: 2
01) werelord
02) voidedalive2x
Reptilia: 14
01) Shaffx95
02) ElementOfZero
03) VeryMetalChewie
04) ready2rock
05) Bulblax
06) greenbaymackey
07) Noite
08) Vigarde
09) yksi-kaksi-kolme
10) briland
11) FL4RE
12) Jellu
13) Goho
14) PuppetMaster9
Sunshine Of Your Love: 2
01) SpoonMan
02) JosephL
She Bangs The Drums: 2
01) ThunderAlex
02) Jleggy12
glad to see you've been busy while I was drunk. there's no way reptilia is easier than sunshine.... but you guys voted and there it goes. next vote starting now. _________________
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trevster10
Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 949 Location: Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Anarchy in the U.K., for reasons previously stated on Page 74. _________________
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