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elScarecrow 
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you really got me is harder than Dyer's Eve, War Ensemble, and HFT?
*twitches*
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FL4RE
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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*I think you should switch Dyers eve & War ensemble
*Put in Setting fire to Sleeping giants above All Nightmare long (GHM) and (YCS)RIA below Disposable Heroes (yes I think SFTSG is much harder now)
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The-B.O.D.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| FL4RE wrote: | | *Put in Setting fire to Sleeping giants above All Nightmare long (GHM) |
Sorry no, I suck REALLY bad at SFTSG but in no way is it harder than a 9 minute song with arythmic strumming and 2 moderately difficult solos |
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Jellu
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| The-B.O.D. wrote: | | FL4RE wrote: | | *Put in Setting fire to Sleeping giants above All Nightmare long (GHM) |
Sorry no, I suck REALLY bad at SFTSG but in no way is it harder than a 9 minute song with arythmic strumming and 2 moderately difficult solos |
Sorry but I agree with FL4RE. I'm not even close to SFTSG and I've FCd ANL! Yeah I know it's long song with lots of hard sections but there's nothing too bad in ANL.
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Fug
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with BOD on this one. SFTSG's fast part isn't all that much harder than the first solo (?) of ANL (the one with the R/O strum mess and descending slider note bullshit) and ANL is like, 3 times as long. ANL is definitely harder imo.
| elScarecrow wrote: | you really got me is harder than Dyer's Eve, War Ensemble, and HFT?
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HFT (both versions) > YRGM > WE = DE
On that note, I would move HFT (WT) up above PWM GHSH. There's no way the Zakk Wylde battle (career) is harder than HFT and HFT gave me much more trouble than PWM did.
EDIT: and move 21CSM up a little too. 21CSM > HFT GHWT > PWM GHSH
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Fug wrote: | | I'm with BOD on this one. SFTSG's fast part isn't all that much harder than the first solo (?) of ANL (the one with the R/O strum mess and descending slider note bullshit) and ANL is like, 3 times as long. ANL is definitely harder imo. |
idk why that R/O strumming is so hard to most of people  I guess I FCd it (or got -1) with RANDOM RUN. Then just little practice and I get consistent with it. But the transition to purples is pretty damn hard... I can't hit it consistently but ofter enough. The trill is not that fast it's easy to one-hand. For some odd reason the ending of purples was the hardest part for me but I luckily hit it with real run and got FC. IMO it's easier than Evil but that's because I can't get even close hitting Tapping Solo  I'm not saying ANL should be moved up cause I guess nobody else thinks it's that easy
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Fug
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, the R/O strumming isn't the hard part imo. It's the transition to the sliders like you said. I just mentioned the R/O part to help identify the section. :P
And Evil is easy.
    
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Anchor everything. The last yellow just kinda hits itself so don't stress over hitting it. Funnest section in the game. :3
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elScarecrow
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Jellu wrote: | | i suck at SFTSG and Evil but am good at ANL |
yeah it sounds like you just got lucky with it. the hardest part of ANL is like 4 minutes in, and theres another like full minute of missable guitar solo after it. and then like 4 more minutes of hoping that you dont miss in the abundant fast strumming/other parts
SFTSG has 1 hard part like 2 minutes in. afterwards literally the whole rest of the song is even strumming at ~165 bpm (2 hopos, a few gaps... still)
how is this even being debated?
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Fug wrote: | | HFT (both versions) > YRGM > WE = DE |
I'd have to totally disagree... How the hell are two easy-to-figure-out slider sections harder than a 6-some minute long song with constant strumming, 19 NPS triplets, and a solo that just doesn't let up in general? Even War Ensemble is harder than YRGM, while also not being equal to Dyers' Eve, just because the whole song is an endurance test compared to two short, not-too-fast slider sections (and I would argue that just the strummy solos alone in WE are harder than YRGM's sliders just because the Metallica engine is so picky with strumming)
Also ANL is way harder than SFTSG; SFTSG is easy to ghost note your way through where as ANL just constantly pounds on you with speed-changing strumming, the stop-and-go strumming in Solo 1B, and a not-exactly-easy solo plus more speed-changing strumming after that... how the hell can SFTSG even be argued as being harder than ANL
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elScarecrow
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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YRGM should be around Scream Aim Fire, IMO. both HFT > WE > DE.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| yksi-kaksi-kolme wrote: | | Fug wrote: | | HFT (both versions) > YRGM > WE = DE |
I'd have to totally disagree... How the hell are two easy-to-figure-out slider sections harder than a 6-some minute long song with constant strumming, 19 NPS triplets, and a solo that just doesn't let up in general? Even War Ensemble is harder than YRGM, while also not being equal to Dyers' Eve, just because the whole song is an endurance test compared to two short, not-too-fast slider sections (and I would argue that just the strummy solos alone in WE are harder than YRGM's sliders just because the Metallica engine is so picky with strumming) |
Verse 2 is very easy to figure out, but solo A is a mega-bitch. Much harder than any single section in either WE or DE imo. DE's solo looks intimidating, but has no difficult patterns in it. Solo A/B have nothing tough in them, solo C is all about not ghost noting the sliders, and solo D is very simple if you learn to alt tap the triplets. There's no tough transitions in it and with properly used tapping, there's no really quick fretting required. In terms of WE, the solos are fairly easy (the only "hard" part, imo, is the strumming in solo 2 since it has the stupidly placed HOPOs, which can lead to undeserved overstrumming), and the strumming throughout the song can be made easier just by abusing the timing window and hitting everything early (mainly the gallops in the verses). YRGM solo A, on the other hand, I just cannot get a grip on. I've posted my method for it and it shouldn't be as hard as it is, but the combination of the speed of the trips, the transition between ascending and descending, and the fact that it's slider notes, imo, make it tougher than the arm rape that is WE and DE. This is likely more of a personal problem than anything else, but can we at least agree on this:
| elScarecrow wrote: | | both HFT > WE > DE |
EDIT: Fuck, I thought you made the last symbol an equals sign. WE and DE are so close in difficulty that it doesn't matter, I guess. I'll call WE harder. :P
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| elScarecrow wrote: | | Jellu wrote: | | i suck at SFTSG and Evil but am good at ANL |
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I read "I suck at fisting and evil but am good at anal."
wtf is wrong with me?
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elScarecrow
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| SpoonMan wrote: | | elScarecrow wrote: | | Jellu wrote: | | i suck at SFTSG and Evil but am good at ANL |
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I read "I suck at fisting and evil but am good at anal."
wtf is wrong with me? |
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| elScarecrow wrote: | | SpoonMan wrote: | | elScarecrow wrote: | | Jellu wrote: | | i suck at SFTSG and Evil but am good at ANL |
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I read "I suck at fisting and evil but am good at anal."
wtf is wrong with me? |
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That's what charlie sheen said (the new "that's what she said").
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| SpoonMan wrote: | | elScarecrow wrote: | | Jellu wrote: | | i suck at SFTSG and Evil but am good at ANL |
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I read "I suck at fisting and evil but am good at anal."
wtf is wrong with me? |
lol that's hilarious. |
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